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deal has to pass the house. we are not into the senate yet and the republican speaker john boehner plablamed the crisis one president saying he the one who has never found a way to say yes. >> so you are in new york and i'm in atlanta, and we get to washington now, because the senior congressional correspondent dana bash is closely following the negotiations from capitol hill, and dana, you have been there and talking to people, and where are we on this? >> well, the senate majority leader harry reid was on the floor moments ago saying that the senate will reconvene at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow. the senate will reconvene tomorrow at 11:00 tomorrow, and that means no senate votes tonight which is not good news for everybody looking at the calendar and looking at the watch at this point and not the calendar to see that it is midnight tomorrow night that everybody's taxes in this country will go up. simply put, both sides are not at a place where they believe that they can come up with anything to put on the senate floor for a vote tonight. they will give it until the actual deadline, decem
at this point in time. they are going to be crucial as well as, of course, house speaker john boehner, but really there's going to be a lot of focus right now on the senate because, as you remember, house speaker john boehner tried to get his own bill passed through the house. that didn't happen. he didn't have enough votes, so essentially everything shifts right now to the senate. so harry reid, mitch mcconnell, nancy please elosi on the house to say here are the number of democrats i could get if you offer a compromise package. but this is really a tough situation because there's so little time left and we've already seen the markets impacted by this. so if we do go over the cliff, if you look at the polls, most americans saying republicans will bear the brunt. they will blame republicans, but the bottom line is the president will get a lot of blame as well because this is going to impact a lot of people. >> right. nbc's kristin welker keeping us honest at the white house. we will stand by. thank you. >> reporter: thank you. >>> joining us for analysis are two of my favorite guys, b
at a stand still now at this crucial time with literally hours left? >> well, of course, john boehner, the speaker, has said that he wants the senate to work out a deal and that if they work one out, they will send it to the house and we will deal with it then. so, they are busy working it out. you have negotiations at the last minute i zrnt have to be this way, shouldn't be this way, anything possible, i think we will pull it out. >> why do you think that? what gives you any level of optimism, given not just today but this problem has been around for a year and a half, if not longer and nothing's been done. >> well, i've been around this place now for 24 years and the general dynamics, i think, we for some reason wait until the last minute for many of these important things and then we are forced to negotiate in good faith. i'm actually disgusted with it, because i think we should have had this a long time ago. i think the senate will come one an agreement and send it over to the house and the question is going to be will john boehner get his republican caucus to go along with him? >
, at least the public ones, between president obama and john boehner. john bain certificate sort of sitting this one out. it's now harry reid, the senate majority leader, the democrat, and mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader, the republican and joe biden has been brought in as the guy that you call if things are breaking down right now. so it's, there's an impasse, they're stuck. but something might still be happening. >> he's the master of the senate. he was there for 30-plus years, he knows how to cut a deal. and we heard senator mcconnell say on the floor of the senate, he's looking for a dance partner. i guess he thought senator reid wasn't it so now he's saying i'll try over here with vice president biden. i don't think that he's going get any further with vice president biden on this issue of cpi for example. the white house will not be any more open to that than senator reid was. but if there is a way to get another route forward or if they're all just looking for an angle, maybe they can find another path this afternoon. who knows. >> thank you, jessica you're kind enough no
that john boehner and the president would discuss things, they would go back to their party. plan b, his caucus said no. things took a different turn today. we heard from a number of democrats, including robert reich on the show just a while ago, but we heard from democratic senators who said everyone is worrying about republicans saying no to this deal. there may be enough democrats to want to say no to it. is there a threat that the democrats might settle the deal? >> that is the concern. now, it's not something that the white house is opening talking about, but that is exactly why there is sort of this pressure to get this resolved right now, because there's momentum, they want to act on it fast, get it done, get it done because if we go over the cliff, democrat s will feel they have more leverage to settle the deal and draw this out into a longer battle. i will point out to you that the treasury secretary has already sent out a letter saying he's taking extraordinary measures now to extend the nation's credit because our debt limit has been reached. so we are already in this period w
clear. in order for that to happen john boehner basically has to agree that he's going to get a deal out of house with majority democrat votes, and i don't see why he does that before january 3rd. >> you're assuming the president has all the leverage, and i think the president would have a horrible legacy starting out with such turmoil, so i disagree. i think there's movement on the white house side on entitlements. >> rick, you do have to accept the fact that john boehner -- goes for the deal with democratic votes. >> he's about as acrimonious and able to get a deal done as sir harry reid. >> jared -- >> bottom lines, look at the vix, at 20, barely into anything. the market is clearly saying it doesn't care. hey, listen. i run my clients' money looking at the vix with my left eye, but 20, give me a break. you've got to thrill me above 30, above 35 before any of this has anything other than very interesting. >> if we get a deal, say sunday night we get a deal, right, do the markets rally, or does it depend on what the deal consists of? >> secretly, they are going to sell off on the news.
that the president seemed to be blaming them. and speaker john boehner saying he should spend more time negotiating, why are you on tv while mitch mcconnell is working with harry reid to troy to get a deal. the president's point was if they do not make any progress on bipartisan talks in the senate since the clock is running out he wants a straight up and down vote on the senate on his fallback level. put it go in the $250,000 a year and extend unemployment benefits for 2 million americans americans americans, dana. >> this is bob beckel. are you done? >> i had a great question, but age before beauty. >> a lot of age and no beauty. >> what? >> ed, truth be known, and we see this fiscal cliff and the calamity of the day on january 1st, tonight is true the white house dot much care if they get it on the first or the fifth? >> reporter: you're right, with withholding, some people will not feel the effects of a tax increase the first couple of days, you might have time to finagle that, the treasury department has that authority. the fact of the matter, what they're more nervous about in the white house
of house speaker john boehner and the job that he's doing. you know, senate majority leader, harry reid has got an approval rating just a little bit above that, 34% for his role in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> let's move on to other polling information. which i agree is prety long-term. locking out to 2016 now, what is the potential impact on all of this say on who could replace the current president of the united states. what are we seeing? >> well you know, that's right. the future is very fascinating. we took a look in a poll that we released today, the cnn/orc poll that looked at republicans and democrats. we asked senators from both parties, who they support. let's take a look at the parties. here's the lineup, for the democrats it's secretary of state hillary clinton. she's far and away ahead of the pack with what, 85% of those who said they would support her. she's got a 20-point lead over the next front-runners, which is vice president joe biden. new york governor andrew cuomo, the son of mario cuomo is in third with 56%. >> a lot of that i would guess is probably just simply b
reporting on it when it was breaking that evening, you called that devastating for john boehner. now that house republicans have clearly rebelled against john boehner, can the senate save the day? that's the big question? >> we will see what happens when the senate comes back on thursday. at least that's the plan right now, the house as well. it has to do with those votes. as far as i'm told, there are no discussions going on, no real talks about trying to find common ground or more specifically to find those votes. we did hear from some republicans over the weekend who -- you would be surprised they would say they'd vote for tax increases. johnny isaacson of georgia. we'll see. but the betting from democratic and republican sources at point is that we're likely to go over the fiscal cliff and there's a big political reason. once we go over the cliff, everybody's taxes go up. that's sporpt to remember. the way that lawmakers will be able to vote to change that is for a tax cut. now they are going to be voting for a tax hike of some sort. there's a very different political reality bet
thought it was a bit cynical that john boehner would put forward this plan "b." it sort of showed a lack of faith in his negotiations with the president but he put forward a plan that would increase taxes on those earning a million dollars or more per year and grover norquist to whom everybody has signed this pledge, this never increase taxes pledge, actually looked it over and said, that's all right. i can live with that. so he gave these republicans cover to vote in favor of this thing, and they didn't. what on earth is going to make these hard line conservatives happy? >> a lot of them just don't want to in good conscience vote for a tax increase on anybody, and i respect that. i think if you get a deal, ali, you're probably going to get a deal where nancy pelosi and the house is going to have to produce a hundred or so votes from her caucus because you probably got at least 50 house republicans who just don't want to vote for any tax increase. you could possible that kind of deal together and if there's any chance of this getting done, it will be that kind of deal where you get 70 vo
of representatives said, and i have it here somewhere, i don't want to be critical of john, meaning john boehner, but if you don't ever bring something to the floor without the votes. so this is what happened last thursday night where he brought this bill to the floor, his plan b, and it went nowhere. was that a major miscalculation for him? >> it was. look, denny was the speakner nea different time. he could hand out projects to districts of wavering members. and he had a very tough leadership team that went out and got the votes. boehner is not a strong leader. he doesn't have the pork and the earmarks anymore since they've been banned. and a lot of the incoming -- or the folks that came in in 2010, the tea party folks, they look at the tom delay are era and say -- >> they're both long time qulil wat capitol hill watchers, and we have to ask you are you seeing any sway now in following boehner? is he losing support? >> obviously the fact that he thought that he would be able to bring the bill last week to the floor to raise taxes on everybody making a million dollars or more and then had to pu
're going to get something done. we heard from house speaker john boehner earlier today. where is this? clearly it looks like now it's in the senate's hands. >> that's right. it is absolutely in the senate's handings, has been effectively since the house speaker failed to pass his so-called plan b proposal last week. and so what is going on behind the scenes right now, suzanne, is the senate democratic leader is trying to figure out if he can cobable together enough votes, which would mean he would have to have probably significant crossover to get some votes to at least pass the bear bare minimum to ahouseholds with incomes of less than $200,000. >> the speaker has just a few days left to change his mind but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time-wise how it can happen now. >> so there's a time issue because we're only five days away, but most importantly there's a political and process issue. the political issue we've talkeder this the last few days, suzanne. it's a question of whether or not there's enough lawmakers, willing to take the vote which would effective
at this point is not in discussion with not only speaker john boehner but the senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell and perhaps because of that, you have some of that pessimism of senator liberman being shared by republicans. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes and sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. gets additional tax revenue, gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years and blame republicans for it. >> now, all eyes are now on the senate, which will reconvene on thursday. seen as likely that president obama will head back to washington from hawaii here. senate minority leader harry reid has the task of trying to conjure up something that might be able to pass the house in addition to the senate publicly. the white house is saying they want tax rates to remain in effect for those making up to $250,000 per year, but it's unclear if that's something. very unclear, very unquestioned that house republicans could swallow that. we're hearing aing you significant possibility we g
harry reid said. a top senate democrat as you know. take a listen. >> john boehner caring more about keeping his speakership than keeping them on financial footing. it's obvious what's going on around here. he is waiting until january 3rd to get reelected to speaker before he gets serious about the negotiation. >> okay. dana, you don't have to translate that. it's about the blame game. >> of course it's all about the blame game. >> digging through, i know you were talking about any scaled back piece of legislation would look like and reports they got from republicans and the president told mitch mcconnell that he would get the details. that's where from the perspective of republicans where things stand. the president publicly said before he left for his vacation in hawaii since everything else was deadlocked, despite everybody's efforts, because of that what he wants to happen is for the very least for congress to pass a tax cut extension for 98% of americans. his plan which he campaigned on for five years. mitch mcconnell spoke to the president as did the other leaders before the pr
. house speaker john boehner will see his salary increase to more than $224,000. and senate majority leader harry reid will take home an annual pay of $194,000 after his raise. so those guys are getting a raise. and if you are counting on a tax refund in the next few weeks, the fiscal cliff could force you to wait just a little bit longer than usual. >>> checking our top stories. the nation is now 14 hours away from the fiscal cliff. sources tell us vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell talked through the night and vow to keep these negotiations going on today. the gridlock in washington could also hold up your tax refund. you might have to wait until late march to file if congress does not approve a short-term fix for the alternative minimum tax in the next few days. same issue two years ago delayed the opening of tax season by four weeks to mid-february. >>> former president george h.w. bush is still in a houston hospital but no longer in intensive care. bush was moved to regular patient room on saturday to continue his recovery. the 88-year-old was in
it to john boehner. he got pretty personal. >> he did. he really laid the blame at boehner's lap. talked about the fact that he was surprised that the house isn't even in session, which is true, but let's get real. the senate came back into session this morning. most importantly, he was very, very pessimistic about getting anything done before we reach that fiscal cliff. listen to what he said. >> the speaker just has a few d days left to change his mind, but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> let me kind of lay out the state of play. i'll try to keep it out as much as possible. this is something everybody is focused on. the ball is in the senate's court right now. so what senator reid, who you saw earlier, and the president, what they are trying to figure out is whether or not they can craft what the president called a scaled-back bill, which is what he campaigned on. raising taxes for everybody making more than $250,000 a year and adding a few other tax-related items in there. maybe spending but it's unclear. the question is whethe
denny hastert would put it on the house floor. i don't get a sense that's where speaker boehner is. >> you could imagine a scenario where the house could pass an agreement that's reached in the senate, with a minority of republicans and dozens of democrats make up the difference. that would essentially be john boehner falling on his sword, diving on the grenade and giving up his speakership. you know, democrats might say this would be a great act of self-sacrifice, not the kind of thing you see in washington. there isn't any indication it's going to happen. it's worth reminding people, if we go over the cliff the world doesn't end. it gets worse the more time passes into january and god fored by february, but there's a good chance they will work something out in early january. unfortunately, the flip side, if they do a band-aid solution right now, we have the debt limit fight coming up. things are still in churn. it's not like it's black and white in the next 24 hours. >> really quickly, do you think the speaker would put a bill on the floor that he knew most of his republicans wou
republican-controlled institution in the town and john boehner having control of his republican conference and squeezing something through the house of representatives. and so far i don't think there's been any movement there. there's been nothing public that can suggest that boehner can suddenly magically pass something that he and the white house agree on. >> ryan, you're a correspondent for the new yorker and join us often. dana, let me bring you back in and ask you, it seems to me that anything that this congress has gotten done -- and by "this congress" i mean when it's been divided between republicans in the house and democrats in the senate. it has been that both parties, that is, the left of the democratic party and the right of the republican party are kind of left to vote yay or nay by themselves and they form a consensus in the middle. does john boehner need nancy pelosi in order to get anything passed? >> reporter: yes, absolutely. no question about it. that became incredibly obvious when he couldn't even get his own republicans to effectively save them from themselves and at l
, there will be a significant bipartisan majority in the senate. the house speaker john boehner suggested at the white house meeting the other day that whatever passes the senate he would allow to come up for an up or down vote in the house of representatives. if he allows that to happen and the democrats are on board, there will be a need for some republicans to join those democrats in the house and pass it, and then the president would sign it into law. my expectation is that that would probably happen and there would be enough republicans to join democrats. yes, there would be some liberals on the democratic side and a lot of conservative it is on the republican side would vote nay, but there would be 218 votes in the house of representatives to pass it. then the president would sign it into law. it might not happen today. it could happen tomorrow. let's see what happens. i think there will be the votes, assuming the leadership's on board. >> all right. could you a lot of fast-moving parts that happen. wolf, thank you very much. we'll take a quick break. we're waiting for the president to speak there abo
house speaker john boehner could not persuade enough members of his party to let tax rates rise on incomes over a million dollars while sparing everyone else. dana bash is our senior congressional correspondent. dana, this time tomorrow, the president is supposed to be back, having cut his trip to hawaii short, the first lady, the girls are staying in hawaii. the senate is supposed to convene, but not necessarily the house. what is going to happen? >> reporter: well, we're not really sure. in fact, house republican leaders are having a conference call, i'm told, as we speak, to figure out that very question. they told their members that they would have 48 hours notice before they reconvene the house and so at the earliest, that would be on friday. but, you know, the action really is now going to begin in the senate. there isn't that much of a rush for the house to come back. and when i say action, even that is a question mark. whether there will be action. i was talking to a democratic source who said right now what they had to figure out, victor, is whether or not harry reid wo
recently, house speaker john boehner and president obama each made important concessions. the president on entitlement spending. speaker boehner on upper income tax rates. speaker boehner, though, could not get conservative republicans to go along and seemed at a loss on what to do next. >> we can't cut our way to prosperity. we need real economic growth. many of us believe on both sides of the aisle on the fundamental reform of the tax code will help us get our economy moving faster and put more americans back to work. and more americans on the tax rolls. how we get there, god only knows. >> president obama, meantime, seemed to lose patience. no sign he's eager to go off the cliff, but he's also not ready, either, to get in his words, what he'll get for free when the bush tax cuts expire tuesday morning. democratic lawmakers, though, are more willing to let that and everything else happen and both sides are still pointing fingers. take a look at mitch mcconnell and harry reid just this afternoon. >> you'll excuse me if i'm a little frustrated at the situation. >> republican leader find
to john boehner, i offered him a trillion dollars in cuts, we're talking two to one cuts to income rates, why didn't you just take it? >> well, candy, that's interesting. i watched the interview. i don't think any american has ever seen the trillion dollars in cut that he offered. >> well, he -- >> and there's never been any specifics. if i were a president, i certainly would lay those out before the american people. i've been as involved with this as any senator in the united states senate, other than mitch mcconnell and harry reid. i have never seen those cuts, so i'd love to take those up on the senate floor. let me just say this, like every american, i'm disgusted with where we are. i know people are irritated at the president, they're irritated at congress, as they should be. there's no question that in the next few days or next few weeks, we're going to rescue most of the american people from a tax increase. we're going to do it. better to do it over the next day or two. but what hasn't happened in this debate is any discussion about real reductions, reforms in medicare and social
john boehner were working on a much bigger package obviously, not just to avoid the fiscal cliff but to try and tackle the long-term fiscal health of the country, trying to overall it was expected to raise some taxes, try to deal with entitlement reform and tax reform, those other big things like entitlement reform and tax reform get kicked into the new year, dana, so it's the gift that keeps on giving on this cli clifftmas. >> taking this pretty far. one of the key questions is whether or not senate democratic leader harry reid will be able to get enough republicans in the senate to vote on anything that will keep taxes low and maybe cut some spending. is the white house optimistic enough that the president might come back early to -- maybe he thinks he might have something to sign? >> i think it is expected that the president will come back early. probably whether or not he has something to sign because -- because obviously he's going to have to even maybe be twisting arms and lobbying some senators in his own party. the big question right now is what is this measure that he wi
the house will do. and the last time john boehner tried to put something on the floor, his caucus rebelled. he'd have to let the house vote its will. >> but you agree if the president of the united states supports it, most of the house democrats will support it. so you don't need a majority of the republicans, you need a few republicans to get to that magic number of 218. >> exactly. obama and pelosi seem to have a firm grasp on the house democrats. it's just a matter of getting it to a vote in the house. what's happened over the course of the day is we had this seesaw. when details leak out, that angers democrats, they go back to the negotiating room and fight for a bit more. then some details leaked out that there weren't enough spending cuts. that angered republicans. obama's comments angered republicans. so i think they're back in the negotiating room, republicans pushing harder on the spending cuts side. that's what we've seen through the the day. >> ali, based on my years of covering washington, the longer there's no final vote in the senate and house, the more likely this whole thin
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